Mentalist Red is the New Black Review


Synopsis

Has-been couture designer Wyck Theissens (Andrew Pifko) is found killed in his loft in Oakland on the eve of making his comeback to the fashion world. While Senior Agent Teresa Lisbon (Tunney) and her consultant Patrick Jane (Baker) investigate his murder, FBI Agent Susan Darcy (Catherine Dent) continues her investigation into the death of James Panzer. She asks CBI Supervising agent Luther Wainwright (Michael Rady) for all of CBI’s Red John files as part of her investigation. The information leads her to ask Jane more awkward questions.

Concise Verdict

Despite a few minor annoyances relating to the direction and styling, this was an enjoyable episode featuring an interesting new venue for this show (fashion) and wondrous continuity. The ending and Alicia Witt’s powerful performance also made for a surprising twist.  8.5/10.

Detailed AKA Humungous Review (spoilers galore)

Red is the New Black picks up on Darcy’s thread of suspicion as introduced in episode “Always Bet on Red”.  In that episode’s review I’d stated:

… it occurred to me that Jane may not realize how suspicious he might seem. First he tells Darcy that finding Panzer’s killer isn’t important as Panzer himself was a killer. Then he tries to set Susan on a wild goose chase looking for who else might have known Panzer was guilty; other than Jane that is. Then he shows her a video of someone stalking her and asks her to drop the case, warning her that it’s dangerous. If I was Darcy, Jane would be my number one suspect at this point. Like she said, either Panzer’s killer is Red John, or someone who studied Red John obsessively (i.e. Jane). Since Jane testified that he killed Red John, it wouldn’t be strange for Darcy to think that he’d once again gone vigilante on another serial killer.

Now by the end of the episode Jane uses a convenient scapegoat, the suicide of Tom Maier, and sets him up as Panzer’s murderer.  Jane fabricated evidence and forged Maier’s signature on a suicide note, making it look like he killed Panzer as revenge for his daughter then took his own life.  At the time it seemed like Darcy might have bought into the story, except for one thing she asked Jane.

“Did it change you? Hunting monsters?”

I posited at the time that this statement might convey that she still mistrusts Jane and it seems that this is true. But first…

Note: I’ve been quite ill for the past two weeks so I wasn’t able to devote my usual attention to this episode. I did, however, analyze most of the important aspects of it thanks to cues I’ve gotten from fans on twitter on what they wanted discussed. Personally, I enjoyed the change of pace and I hope readers will too. Thank you everyone who contacted me. Without you this post wouldn’t have been possible.

Rigsby’s Impending Fatherhood

Rigsby hangs up the phone from Sarah. Cho sensing Rigsby’s preoccupation, asks him if everything is okay? Rigsby states that it is complicated before revealing that his girlfriend is pregnant.  Cho congratulates him.

-I guess the fact that Rigsby for once didn’t bother offering Cho any information on his own tipped Cho off that something serious was going on, hence his reaching out to Rigsby here. Love Chigsby 🙂

Speaking of Sarah’s pregnancy, @AWirtala asked: “I wonder how Van Pelt feels about the Rigsby/Harrigan pregnancy..”

Based solely on this episode Grace seems pretty ambivalent. I liked her reaction to the news. Well, most of it anyway. Her knee jerk response of “Oh my God, yikes” could have been better but it seemed like an honest reaction, not a spiteful one like how she bitterly congratulated Rigsby on dating Sarah in “Blood and Sand”. Here, Grace quickly apologizes, then asks Wayne if he is okay. She sweetly listens to him nervously express that “babies are good” and that he always wanted kids, and how he won’t marry Sarah as he doesn’t want to rush into anything. Grace then tells Wayne that his kid is lucky and that he is going to make a great dad.

I loved this moment as it showed Grace to be the warm and caring person we know she is capable of being. This side of her wasn’t always visible when she and Wayne were dating. At times she was quite impatient with the easily flummoxed man; the main reason why I prefer her and Wayne as friends. She seemed a much nicer friend than she was a girlfriend to him (i.e. Every Rose has its Thorn).

But since Grace’s trauma with Craig, her understanding self seemed to have gotten into hibernation as she got more and more lost in her own cynicism. But thanks to the previous episode, Grace seems to have moved on, both from her PTSD and from Wayne. She has reached the point where she can have normal reactions to the events around her. More importantly, she has gone back to being the good friend that she is and does not seem to be jealous or resentful of Rigsby’s situation at all.

Can it be true?  Wayne and Grace are officially, amicably over? That would make me so happy. Rigsby and Sarah get to develop their relationship while Grace can start over with someone new. It’s a win-win situation all around.

Darcy

@Flickster77 on twitter wondered:

“Why so much focus on Jane’s steps … Carter wasn’t RJ but Jane is not a bad person. ..”

As far as Darcy is concerned, I don’t think she allows her own judgment (i.e. whether Jane is a bad person or not) affect the way she does her job. She had been given a case: finding out who killed Panzer and she wants to solve that case. Initially, she came to the obvious, reasonable, and correct conclusion: Red John killed Panzer. But as Jane rejected this opinion, it made her look elsewhere. Then the video Jane showed her just made her even more motivated to catch the killer now that she’s seemingly been targeted due to the investigation. But even after the case is solved, Darcy can’t seem to let it go.  She points out to Wainwright how awfully strange Maier’s note and the evidence is, revealing himself to be the killer after going through the trouble of making Panzer’s murder look like it was done by Red John.

And so Darcy reverts to her original hypothesis. Red John killed Panzer. To make sure, she requests all the Red John files from the CBI to study them. Which leads her to retracing Jane’s steps and the only “witness” to Red John: Rosalind Harker.

What I find intriguing is that Darcy seems to trust Jane enough to not suspect him for the murder despite how suspiciously one might say he’s been acting. I suppose she’s chalking his insistence that Red John didn’t kill Panzer to denial; that Jane doesn’t want to admit that he shot the wrong man (Carter) and that Red John is still alive. It will be interesting to see how far this trust Darcy has of Jane’s innocence (of Panzer’s murder, anyway) will go. Now that Darcy thinks she has proof that RJ is still alive, perhaps she’ll assume that RJ was the one who fabricated the evidence to blame Molly Maier’s father. Jane might just get off the hook on that, assuming Darcy doesn’t bother asking why RJ would frame someone else for a murder he committed. In which case I’m sure Jane will come up with a ready lie for that as well. I wonder if she’ll believe him next time…if she ever did.

Luther Wainwright’s complicity with the FBI

@CJDavey asked: “Mention these 2 please: Wainwright’s behaviour regarding RJ and how unbelievably awesome the ep was. Especially the end.”

With regards to Luther Wainwright, writer Eaoghan Mahoney gave us a very important clue that we need to focus on: Luther’s meeting with Susan Darcy took place at the FBI (a super on the screen stated: FBI Regional Office, Sacramento). The fact that the meeting took place on Darcy’s turf shows that she has the home advantage on Wainwright; is in a stronger position, at least metaphorically speaking. And if that’s not obvious, Darcy makes it so. She starts out diplomatically enough, telling Luther that she wanted him to know “as a professional courtesy” that she is still investigating Panzer’s murder. But then Susan reveals the real reason she asked him to meet her. She wants all the Red John files. And Darcy is speech is sneakily authoritative: “I’m gonna need all the Red John files” leaving very little room for argument. Wainwright is clearly out of his league as shown by him instantly succumbing to her demand. His semantics is quite revealing as well. “Of course, whatever the bureau needs we are always happy to be of assistance.”

It could be that after losing the San Joaquin killer case to the FBI Luther feels that he is in no position to make their job any harder. That being said I find no reason to be suspicious or leery of his actions, at least not up to that point.

Another decision, he makes, however, is much more intriguing and not as innocent.

Wainwright asks a JD (I assume he works in evidence storage) to not disclose that all evidence regarding RJ cases, “four boxes of physical evidence. Plus two hard drives containing all photographic and documentary evidence” will be taken to the FBI offices.

What’s interesting is that Luther made this decision before Darcy asked him to keep the matter confidential between them stating that he “saw no need” to share the information with his people.

The question is why. Why wouldn’t Luther tell Lisbon of this?

Perhaps Luther was (understandably) worried about what Jane’s reaction would be if he knows that the FBI was gaining access to the RJ case. Luther saw firsthand how mad Jane was when he lost the SJK case to Darcy so maybe he was avoiding a replay of that.

Or it could be that Luther understood tacitly that Darcy suspects his team of wrongdoing and by cooperating with her is covering his own back.

Another interesting possibility is that Luther, tired of being kept out of the loop with regards to Lisbon and Jane’s schemes (Ring Around the Rosie, The Red Shirt) has decided to give them a taste of their own medicine. This theory might be supported by the fact that Luther did not acknowledge the video Darcy showed him. If it was just another thing Jane and Lisbon kept from him, it might be enough for him to decide to throw them to the wolves. If that is the case then I honestly can’t say I blame him. The man has had an open door policy from day one that neither Jane nor Lisbon bothered to use. He’d been nothing but courteous and understanding, especially to Jane (save for his whole “you are a psychopath” speech, anyway).

Perhaps therein lies the answer? Could it be that Wainwright himself suspects Jane of killing Panzer, seeing how sure Jane was that Panzer was the murderer and how upset he was when Darcy took the case? If so, it again makes sense that Luther would hide Darcy’s new investigation from Jane, and by extension, Lisbon. He’s a suspect, and she’s his loyal boss.

Then of course there is the obligatory conspiracy theory…that Luther is an RJ ally. But I find this far-fetched as I can’t think of anything RJ has to gain from having his files seen by the FBI.

Jane/Lisbon’s Deception and Collusion

@juluk stated: “I am thinking, I presume you will deal with RJ issues and baby issues. How about who brought in the FBI, Jane or Lisbon?”

At the end of the episode blind Rosalind Harker calls Jane and tells him that Roy Tagliaferro (her one-time lover whom Jane suspected was RJ) has come to see her. She states that he asked for Jane and Darcy’s presence so that he’ll clear up all the misunderstanding between himself and the law. Jane’s immediate concern is Rosalind’s safety, but after that is established he tells her that he is on his way. In the next scene we see Jane, Lisbon, Darcy and FBI officers enter Rosalind’s home.

-I suspect, that after Jane shut the phone from Rosalind, he called Darcy immediately to make sure that she was safe. After that he would have had to explain his concern to her and reveal what Rosalind told him. Seeing as Jane was at CBI, he would have probably filled in Lisbon at the same time by having her listen to his conversation with Darcy.

One might ask why Darcy entered Harker’s home with her troops, accompanied by Jane and Lisbon, as opposed to Darcy accompanying Lisbon and her troops. I think, seeing as how RJ requested Darcy’s presence, it’s only natural that she would want to go in with her own people as back up. Another possibility could be that Darcy, gaining access to the RJ files, means that she has covertly taken over the RJ case. Time will tell.

I do want to discuss Lisbon a bit. We all know that she’s been going along with practically all Jane’s schemes, barely any questions asked this season. But there were two instances that struck me in this episode. The first was when Jane cancels her meeting with Wainwright. Lisbon tells Jane that he shouldn’t have done it on principle, because while he was right and that she hadn’t wanted to attend, she might have. Jane widens his eyes at her back, one of his tell-tale sarcastic gestures.

So we do Lisbon fighting, however shallowly over Jane exerting his control over her, as opposed to the other way around a la season three (I’m sure Windsparrow will have a lot to say about this). But is a token objection from Lisbon enough? I’ve been saying all along that she needs to remain strong to keep both Jane and herself out of trouble. It might be that Jane himself agrees with me…

Cue instance number two:

After Jane meets with Darcy, Lisbon asks him how it went. Jane tells her it’s not important but when she says he has a “bad news” look on his face Jane admits that Darcy saw Rosalind Harker. Lisbon realizes that Darcy now knows RJ is alive, Jane amends that she “suspects” and Lisbon once again presses him to tell Darcy the truth. Jane throws her off with a “Why stir up trouble” before changing the subject onto the case. Lisbon allows this and while she gathers her things Jane looks at her with a pensive look.

Viewers may recall a poll I had posted in the Blinking Red Light Review questioning why Jane might be teaching (grooming) Lisbon on his mentalist techniques. I had included six different options within the poll including the possibility that Jane is doing so so that Lisbon would be more likely to take his lead. However, a staggering 47.89 % (at the time of this review) of voters chose the following possibility:

Not necessarily. He wants her to trust herself, maybe enough to stand up to him if need be.

I was equally shocked and impressed with this percentage. I can only assume that those who chose this option recalled Jane saying that he needs someone strong, someone better than him, which in all honesty was what had been running in my mind when I created the option. It seemed too optimistic however and I never thought it would end up being such a popular choice. It was a nice surprise.

But this optimism coupled with Jane’s worried look at Lisbon in the aforementioned scene gave birth to a new idea. Could it be that Jane is disappointed in Lisbon for letting the matter go, for not pushing him further to tell Darcy the truth? Could it be that Jane knows what he is doing is wrong and actually wants Lisbon to fight him on this decision, and seeing her being so complicit actually has him worried?

And if that is true, then what is it that’s troubling him? The fact that he can no longer trust her to be his moral compass, or what her cutting him so much slack entails; that she has gotten too close to Jane? After craving Lisbon’s friendship and intimacy, could Jane now be starting to fear it?

And down the rabbit hole I go. Help me get out people.

Rosalind Harker

Rosalind, Rosalind. Such a lovely character played beautifully by the gorgeous Alicia Witt.

@RobinTunneyBlog asked: Why didn’t Rosalind ask Darcy for her badge, like she did when Lisbon & Jane came to visit her the first time in S1 Finale? Maybe it’s nothing, but it did strike me as strange the moment I watched the episode…

It could have just been omitted to save time, or it might have been intentional to show that she has now become used to law enforcement officers visiting her home.

@everrinn stated: “my biggest question is did Rosalind know at the end? Was her traumatized look cuz she knows now Roy is RJ?”

I think future episodes will reveal what if anything new Rosalind now knows about Red John. But I’m going to borrow some of Jane’s words to describe what she might have felt at the end. When Darcy asks Jane why he still believes RJ is dead despite Rosalind’s contention that Timothy Carter is not Roy Tagliaferro, Jane says:

“She’s hardly a rock solid witness. There’d been many years since her last contact with Tagliaferro. She’s kind of a lonely soul. I think she’d rather believe he was still alive out there somewhere.”

The same concept can certainly be applied to why Rosalind finds it hard to believe that Roy is a murderer. She’d once mentioned that he was “cruel” for leaving her so suddenly without word and the look of utter delight on her face when she was talking to Jane on the telephone, telling him that Roy was here and that he was innocent, it was all a big misunderstanding, was heartbreaking to see. Especially when compared with what everrinn accurately called her traumatized look at the end of the episode.

So it may be that Rosalind now knows Roy is a killer. Or the look of despair and disillusionment on her face could simply be bitter disappointment that the man she loves had once again left her as hinted by her bitterly sorrowful statement “Roy couldn’t stay,” as she plays the piano, almost compulsively.

Being blind I doubt Rosalind she would have seen RJ carry the body of the morgue attendant into her house (the saran wrapping shows that he was obviously killed elsewhere).

I hope future episodes will clarify what her current emotional state on RJ is. I just want to add, as CJDavey stated, her playing mournfully on the piano, a tune that regular viewers have now come to associate with RJ related deaths, was an eerie and fantastic way to end the episode.

Pet Peeves

-Not sure it’s a good thing when Grace has more make up on than the models in the episode. Amanda Righetti is an extremely naturally beautiful woman. But all the make up (and the ever thinning brows) is making her look much older than she is. Let’s not forget that she is playing a cop. Yes Tunney and Righetti are both looking better than ever this year but I miss the serviceable (and more realistic) buns and ponytails they sported in the earlier seasons. And both are gorgeous enough that having their hair off their face would just give us more to drool at.

-Is it me or has Lisbon become a pushover? It’s not just Jane anymore. When she asks to see Duvall and the model is all “he’s not available” she resignedly tells her to have him call her back without even trying to exert her authority (or flash her badge) as she usually does. I’m starting to think windsparrow is right, Lisbon is exhibiting signs of being burned out by the job (or perhaps by Jane might be a more accurate statement). She’s just lacking her usual spark, spunk, and bite.

-The casting of the sewing trio was very well done but the model…while I appreciate this show going against the stereotypes of the unfairness of the modelling world, the actress they chose to be the murdering model was simply too beautifully curvaceous to pass for a top realistic model.

-The clothes! We never got to see that flashy gold dress close up! The director kept moving the camera on to the kids sewing them.  We totally needed more close ups on the clothes, at least the ones the victim designed.

Best Quotes

“It came from his mouth.” –Cho’s deadpan to Jane, on importance of finding where a feather came from.

“Yes, before it was in his mouth.” –Jane, in reply to the above.

“Fashion. Really?”-Cho to Rigsby

“Beautiful women in nice clothes, what’s not to like?”-Rigsby, in response to the above.

“Did it ever occur to you that I might actually want to go to the meeting?” Lisbon to Jane.

“No it didn’t. Do you?”-Jane.

“No. But it’s the principle.”-Lisbon, in response to the above.

“You’re not coming? Lisbon this could be your ticket out of this dead end job.”-I wonder what Jane meant her. Maybe that Lisbon going with him to a top designer will give her a shot at becoming a model? Aww!

“More managing, I mean what-someone gotta do it.” –again, I wonder why Jane’s so insistence Lisbon accompanies him. It’s kinda cute anyhow.

“You?!” Jane to the murderer. Love the surprised tone here.

“You’re losing your touch.”-Lisbon gleefully to Jane.

“Don’t be ridiculous the trick worked exactly as I intended. It didn’t matter which one I thought it was, that’s how a good trick works.” Aw, Jane.

“You would say that wouldn’t you.”-Love Lisbon’s big smile here.

“So am I gonna be out of here soon. I have a show in a couple of hours and I need to be there early for make up and fitting.”-Becky O Danahue’s reading of this line was great. So matter of fact, as if unaware that she just committed a major crime.

“No. You’re not going to be in the show. No more shows.”-Grace’s reading was great.

Conclusion

If we take Carter’s statement as fact that RJ wanted to retire, then probably most of those who knew who he really was are dead. Jane once asked why Todd Johnson started killing cops, and I posited that all the cops that had been killed might have been loose ends RJ wanted to silence; his followers in disguise since so many people tied in with Red John were members of law enforcement; Sherriff Hardy, Craig O’Laughlin, Rebecca, etc.

Now obviously Red John left a few of his members out of necessity; Craig O’Laughlin as an insider to reveal what the CBI knows about RJ, and then used Timothy Carter to relay a message to Jane that he was retiring.

But then Jane inadvertently set RJ on again when he used him to kill Panzer. Jane then sent RJ the message that he in fact did not want to restart their cat and mouse game, not overtly anyway, by going to extreme lengths of framing someone else for Panzer’s murder. I assumed that RJ had gotten the message. But now that Darcy is still investigating, RJ goes and does something else. He kills the morgue attendant that witnessed Jane bringing in Rosalind to ID Carter as RJ.

The question is why? Is it another deterrent to Darcy to stop her from investigating RJ?

Or could the mortician’s death have been RJ’s way to help Jane establish that RJ is indeed, dead, and that he and Roy Tagliaferro are two separate entities? After all, there was no smiley where the body was found. The only reason which comes to mind is that RJ did not in fact kill the morgue attendant. Perhaps, like Bosco’s team, another of his mend did. (Viewers may recall only one smiley was found at one of the Bosco’s team’s crime scenes, the detective who was cut open at a doctor’s office. The others, simply shot by Rebecca, had no smiley).

Or, it might be that there is a smiley, just somewhere else, where the mortician was killed; the actual crime scene.

It’s quite a confusing situation and I’m not surprised that Jane didn’t answer Darcy’s “Are you still going to tell me that RJ is dead.” He’s going to need to think about what’s going on here before he can understand the truth, the better to lie about it later. As Julie pointed out in one of her comments, RJ hasn’t been killing people for pleasure for quite a while now. It’s either been to manipulate Jane or prevent people from talking.

So, again, what was RJ’s point in killing the mortician? Please share your thoughts in the comments.

Finally, don’t miss tonight’s episode! Minor spoilers below and promo links below…

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At First Blush SPOILERS:

ADA Osvaldo Ardiles is back! Also Diane Farr guest stars! (I adore her).

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32 responses to “Mentalist Red is the New Black Review

  • violet

    Interesting review! This new question/answer style is quite refreshing! And you gotta love those drawings from Chizuru-Chibi, they’re always so pertinent and cute! 🙂

    About the reason behind this last murder, I’m not sure either. 😉 It could be that RJ wanted indeed to help Jane in proving that he was dead. It’s plausible, even though Darcy was already convinced that Roy was Red John, so the results of such a plan might not prove very effective. Another possibility is that RJ is poking Jane: he knows that he is safe since he’s officially dead until now, so he plays with him. Until recently Jane was only his toy, now he’s his playmate and, even though Jane clearly declined entering this closer relationship by framing another man, RJ keeps sending him little “gifts”, meaning “well, how would you deal with this now?” Hence the lack of smiley: just like in chess, he lets Jane chose how he would play his turn, either by telling the truth and endangering his own status, or by continuing to play along and covering up his crimes.

    This murder also means that RJ must have another follower tailing Darcy or informed of her plans, since he knew that she went to the morgue and visited Rosalind.

    On a side note: I was shocked that Jane came with the cops. Not so long ago he would have just rushed here alone, gun in hand, on the off chance to kill his nemesis even if it was only to find Rosalind’s corpse. At the very best he would have told the team. This time he called Darcy (or at least let Lisbon do it), meaning he has accepted that RJ might be arrested. That seems to reinforce the hypothesis that, deep sown, he wants to spill the beans and be over with it. Moreover there is a disconcerting difference with the arc with the mole: both share similar structures – an eerily dramatic episode (directed by Backer) opens a new door in the RJ story, and things escalate from here: first Jane leaded a secret investigation, now he is the one being investigated, at least as a witness. Still, now Jane seems far weaker, he spends his time dealing with leaks as they keep coming. He clearly needs back-up, may be it Lisbon or Darcy. As it’s been pointed out before he’s no match for RJ and he has realized it himself. It’s troubling,

  • All-I-need

    Okay, I`m going to make this quick because it`s late and I need to go to bed. Anyways, here we go:

    I got another theory on Wainwright. The fact that Agent Darcy is investigating the Red John case shows that she doesn`t believe RJ is dead. Therefore, it is only reasonable that Wainwright might agree with her on that. Now, he said he read the team`s files. I`m sure he`s also VERY familiar with the RJ case (he has to be, working with Jane) and so he definitely knows what happened the last time someone took the Red John case away from Jane. My theory is that Wainwright figured there was a chance RJ is still out there. When Darcy showed him the video, he concluded that she might be in danger and thus wants to keep her investigation quiet so as to not draw more attention to her. Her taking all the files with her could make the impression of her taking over the case completely, and we all know how Red John will react to that (see Bosco and team).

    Also, I totally LOVE that Rosalind is back. I like her character a lot (probably because she plays the piano) and I was delighted to see her back. Great storyline. Anyways, when Jane, Lisbon and the FBI barged into her house I first thought she was dead. Then we saw her playing the piano and she said that Roy had to go, sounding so bitter, and we saw the blood. My first thought was that Rosalind had finally admitted to herself who Roy really was and – in an unexpected fit of rage – killed him herself. I am also pretty sure she knew there was a dead body in her closet. Her senses are very well-developed, she`d definitely have smelled the blood, not to mention she`d probably put the pieces together from the sounds – even Red John can`t carry or drag a dead body and dump it in a closet while making his movements sound like he`s simply walking around. There`s no way she didn`t notice.

    Rigsby doesn`t seem very happy about the baby – in fact, I think he doesn´t really love Sarah and is completely overwhelmed by the thought of being a father – and not in a good way. I think Jane will have a lot to say about that. In fact, I am very surprised that so far, Jane hasn`t mentioned it at all – doesn`t even KNOW it. Usually, he`d be all over this. And considering the brother/sister relationship between Rigsby and Lisbon, I would have expected him to come to her and talk to her about it. Maybe he too noticed that she and Jane are growing ever closer and didn`t want to interfere. The way he looked at Grace also suggests that he is still very much in love with her and would probably love to have kids with HER.

    The case itself was pretty interesting and funny and something I thought was very interesting is just a minor detail but: Jane liked the loft. A lot. He was so obvious about it that even Lisbon noticed. In fact, parts of the loft looked a lot like his room up in the attic. I was thinking that maybe Jane might be interested in getting a place like that for himself. Maybe he even would, if RJ wasn`t still out there. He has shown signs of moving on, after all. Him getting his own place is something I can`t wait to see.

    Oh, and before I forget: I totally LOVE the fanart! Keep it up, Chizuru_chibi, it`s amazing! Great job, really.

    And that`s all for now. I might come back and comment again when I`m not so tired 😉

    Thanks for another great blog post, as usual.

  • windsparrow

    Hey reviewbrain – I didn’t know you were sick, and hope you are feeling better.

    ‘And Darcy is speech is sneakily authoritative: “I’m gonna need all the Red John files” leaving very little room for argument. Wainwright is clearly out of his league as shown by him instantly succumbing to her demand. His semantics is quite revealing as well. “Of course, whatever the bureau needs we are always happy to be of assistance.”’

    I firmly believe that all of Wainwright’s (geez, I hate typing that name, couldn’t they have given him something shorter and easier to to type?) actions in this episode are explained by him believing that Darcy is right about there being something hinky about the resolution of the Panser case, and that the hinkiness originates with Jane and the Serious Crimes Unit. The next questions on his mind would be “How much more of the CBI?” and “Just exactly what kind of hinkiness (I.E. Jane being crooked and Lisbon a dirty cop, or all of ’em being screwed with by RJ)?” Wainwright’s inexperience shows in his defensiveness when Lisbon comes to his office – but I doubt anyone who has done his job would have done anything different. They would have been much smoother and more secure in their authority and therefore behaved less suspiciously in front of Lisbon, but Minelli, Hightower, and La Roche would all have turned over those files and done so discretely. Well, Minelli might have implicitly trusted Lisbon enough to exclude her from his own suspicions, so might have done things differently. If Hightower had resumed her position, she might have attempted an end-run around Darcy out of loyalty to Jane and Lisbon.

    “So we do Lisbon fighting, however shallowly over Jane exerting his control over her, as opposed to the other way around a la season three (I’m sure Windsparrow will have a lot to say about this). But is a token objection from Lisbon enough?”

    Well, possibly I don’t have as much to say as you might wish. While watching this scene, the Man and I looked at each other and said “Nope, they’re not married. At all.” The whole thing felt to me not so much Lisbon making a pro forma protest against Jane’s control over her as one of those silly-couple conversations we have at our house now and then:
    “Did you eat all the popcorn?”
    “Yeah.”
    “What if I had wanted some?”
    “Sorry, I thought you don’t like popcorn.”
    “I don’t, but you never know…”
    “Do you want some? I will go to the store so I can make you popcorn if you want it.”
    “No, I don’t like popcorn. But thanks for offering.” (And this is the point at which one of us starts singing, “I Can’t Decide Whether You Should Live or Die”)

    Wait. What? Me not jumping all over signs of Jane’s inner Neanderthal coming out to play with Lisbon – where’s that thermometer, I must be coming down with the flu or something.

    Now that I think about it, it has been a long time since the Man said, “You know they started making out as soon as the elevator doors closed, don’t you?” Poor Jane and Lisbon – their honeymoon is over and they are now every bit the old married couple that Holmes and Watson are (Cumberbatch/Freeman or Downey/Law but less so Brett/Hardwicke). It does my shipper’s heart good to see them settling in so happily together even if I didn’t get an invite to the wedding.

    That brings me right around to this: “Jane throws her off with a “Why stir up trouble” before changing the subject onto the case. Lisbon allows this and while she gathers her things Jane looks at her with a pensive look.”

    I do not know precisely what Jane’s concern here is. While watching this scene the first time, I was unsure whether Jane was worried for himself and his web of lies around Panser and Darcy or worried about Lisbon. Or worried that Lisbon was not going to let it go, and would come back to nag him about it more. I’m not even sure I would know what that look of concern would mean if I had written the scene (I hate it when characters start doing things without consulting you first, it can really mess up a plot). And I for darn sure know that my logic isn’t the same as the showrunners’. When the season or the whole series is done, then I’d be willing to revisit that look and try again to interpret it.

    “-Is it me or has Lisbon become a pushover? It’s not just Jane anymore. When she asks to see Duvall and the model is all “he’s not available” she resignedly tells her to have him call her back without even trying to exert her authority (or flash her badge) as she usually does. I’m starting to think windsparrow is right, Lisbon is exhibiting signs of being burned out by the job (or perhaps by Jane might be a more accurate statement). She’s just lacking her usual spark, spunk, and bite.”

    There are layers and layers here. Yes, she is tired of fighting the grinding gears of bureaucracy, and Jane’s machinations, and the unimaginable stress of the Gordian Knot that is the Red John case. Another factor is her shifting loyalties. When the show first started, Lisbon was married to her job. Her primary allegiance was to The Law (as the surest way to Justice) and to the CBI as a manifestation of The Law. It was easy to see that she trusted her place in the agency in general. And she relied on her relationship with her boss, Minelli, as an anchor. Over time, her shifting relationships to higher-ups eroded that reliance. While Hightower was not the personal anchor that Minelli was, in the end Lisbon’s bond with Hightower was still of primary importance as a conduit for her relationship with the agency. Then the agency betrayed Hightower in a way that would leave Lisbon feeling more than a little adrift. Then being cut loose by the agency, that would have been an even more personal betrayal. Her loyalty to the agency was punished. Jane stepped in, saving her job (and saving the jobs of her team which might inspire even more gratitude). It seems plain to me that her primary loyalty now is to her ersatz marriage to Jane and the version of Justice that he can help her to achieve. I’m fairly certain I could go on for pages about what these changes mean for Lisbon. But for now, I want a nap before I go to work, so I’m going to stop here.

    I have things to say about Rosalind – but I need to look more closely at All-I-Need’s comments before getting into it.

  • reviewbrain

    Glad you liked the new style. Necessity can be creative 😉
    I’m always reassured whenever Jane involves the law with Red John. But we should remember that this isn’t the first time. He had Lisbon have his back in the Season one finale. And when Brett Stiles told him where Red John was keeping Kristina he had back up as well. And even when he set up Red John in the Strawberries and Cream finale he knew he would need the teams help. I think most likely it’s Jane’s self preservation and pragmatism (catching Red John taking priority over revenge) that causes him to involve the cop. After all, he’d be first to admit to being useless both in hand to hand combat and in a gun fight. Note: Jane did kill Carter but shooting someone point blank range doesn’t require much skill. On the other hand, I’ll take any interpretation that even hints that Jane wants to move on from RJ and/or revenge 🙂

  • reviewbrain

    So you’re saying the reason Wainwright is keeping Darcy’s involvement in the case a secret is to keep her safe; and not end up dead like Bosco? Intriguing! And if suspects RJ is still alive, like you say, then he may think that there is still a mole within CBI, like Craig was. Even more of a reason to keep the matter under wraps. The only question is, is he smart enough to have thought that far.

    Rosalind: I love her too. As to her senses, this is a woman who sensed that Roy was a good person, who till recently refused to believe he was capable of murder. As to hearing the body being moved in, perhaps she was otherwise occupied? Like fixing tea in the kitchen or freshening up for her lover in the bathroom? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just throwing ideas out there.

    I’m not sure what Rigsby feels. He’s obviously nervous but I do think he feels genuine affection for Sarah, if not love. It’s still early to tell if its strong enough to overcome any residual feelings he may have for Grace but we’ll know soon enough. Babies have a way of upping the stakes in a relationship.

    Jane in a loft. Love it. Could it be he feels safer the higher up he is? Glad you’re loving the drawings and as always thanks for commenting.

  • reviewbrain

    Thanks Windsparrow 🙂
    You know I have to spell-check Wainwright’s name every time I write it? Glad it’s not just me. Speaking of Luther, so I’m guessing you chose the third option in the poll?
    As to the other bosses, Minelli was always derisive of the FBI, there was no love lost there so I don’t know if he would have given over those files so easily. As to LaRoche, his own suspicions would have had him let Darcy know that he would handle the matter personally, and I don’t doubt he would have gotten to the bottom of it. Hightower, given her newfound friendship with Lisbon and her instant liking of Jane might have stood up to Darcy out of loyalty to her team. As to Luther, I’m leaning towards his decision being a little of all three options. Yes, he’s out of his league. He also does suspect Jane of “hinkiness”. Also, the fact that Jane and Lisbon never seem to defer to him means he has no qualms of letting Darcy’s investigation run its course, where ever that may lead.

    And you’ve said enough to have me quoting you on twitter. Seriously, your Jane/Lisbon comments crack me up. On a more serious note, thanks for your explanation of why Lisbon’s much more open to Jane’s perspectives. You’re absolutely right, her loyalties have shifted. Also, her not having a dependable boss that she actually likes has her very isolated. Jane is perhaps the only person she feel on equal footing with at CBI. She still keeps a barrier (although its smaller now) between herself and her subordinates for the sake of professionalism. There’s no MInelli to rely on, no Hightower to relate to. It seems like Jane is her only friend…

    As to Jane’s look. To be honest I’m not sure if it’s significant or not. But then I remembered all the time I spent analyzing Jane’s look at the end of Red Queen, and how it ended up being significant and actually had continuity (first in Every Rose, then in Redacted) and I just couldn’t help myself 🙂

    Looking forward to what you have to say on Rosalind.

  • violet

    True, Jane has called the team as back up before, but it was slightly different: for Kristina, he expected to find her already dead. As for the mall: he wasn’t sure that he would be alone with his nemesis; remember he thought that Bertram was the mole, meaning he would have been alone with two cold-blooded murderers. On the other hand, when Bertram was out of the picture and he managed to identify “RJ”, he didn’t call them back, he acted alone. And he already had the gun hidden in his suit pocket…Last, when he first missed RJ, in the S1 finale with Hardy, Lisbon was indeed the only back up he brought with him and he got angry with her for getting in the way. He expected her to protect him but mostly to let him confront RJ.
    And you’re right about Jane’s intense instinct of self-preservation: he was running amazingly fast in “Always Bet On Red” when the “boat went boom” (love that drawing…). Nevertheless, if he thought he was *really* that useless, how did he plan to cut Red John open (of all people!) and watch him bleed to death?
    Thus, we can certainly say there is a crucial change in his behaviour. We can guess he expected Rosalind to be dead, but there was still a fair chance that Red John would have been waiting for him to “explain himself” and settle things. Or so I think… 😉

    (And Windsparrow is right: get well soon! I forgot to mention it before, silly me! 🙂 )

  • ortforshort

    Here’s my take on things:

    RJ is going to murder Darcy. It’s just a matter of when. He obviously still has at least one mole in the FBI and probably the CBI. How else would he know that Darcy is still on the Panzer case and visiting the mortician and Rosalind? RJ reminds me of Heath Ledger’s Joker. He’s doing it for the chaos and Jane is his Batman. RJ will probably not let Darcy live long enough to expose Jane’s mechanations to try to save her. Killing the mortician and leaving him in Rosalind’s house should be sending pure fear into Darcy. She seems to think she can handle it. Jane knows she doesn’t stand a chance.

    As far as Lisbon not challenging Jane anymore. It reminds me of Scully and Mulder in X-Files. After a while, Scully went with the flow. For a lot of reasons, not the least of which was that she was in love with Mulder just like Lisbon is in love with Jane. For another, she’s coming around, slowly, to Jane’s perspective on things. The end result is what matters. The process doesn’t. Lisbon has been doing things by the book her whole life. Jane’s way is better. Altho’ she hasn’t totally converted because she still nags Jane about Darcy – but half heartedly.

    Rigsby. Any guy knows how Rigsby feels right now. And it ain’t good. He’s facing a life sentence with Sarah when he really wants to be with Van Pelt.

  • Everrinn

    Awesome review, as always! I’ve been following your reviews for a while now, but I decide it might be time for me to come out of hiding xD

    I’m very surprised Darcy doesn’t seem to be overly suspicious of Jane. He’d be the first suspect on my list! I agree that she’s just doing her job when it comes to questioning Jane. She wants to get to the bottom of things, not to paint Jane as a bad person, but just to find out the truth.
    That said, I’m kind of waiting for Darcy to meet an untimely demise via Red John. Not that I don’t like her character but… well… 😛 I guess I just miss LaRoche as the outside investigator popping up everywhere. I’m actually almost confused as to why Red John doesn’t seem to be taking more drastic measures when it comes to Darcy handling his case. I can’t see he has much to lose by getting her out of the way.

    Thank you for answering my question, by the way, about the ending! I do think Rosalind knew at the end that Roy wasn’t so innocent after all. I doubt he would be able to lug a body into her closet without her knowing something is up. If she shivered before entering the morgue in the beginning of the season, I have a feeling she would be more than aware of a dead body inside her own home. Also, just a minor question- if the morgue attendant was killed elsewhere and the body wrapped in
    saran wrap, would there be that much blood seeping from it still? Anyway, so glad Rosalind has been returning this season. I enjoy her character. My brother and I were practically screaming during that ending scene, thinking she was gonna be found dead. Here’s to hoping she lasts.

    A huge question I have right now is regarding Red John’s intentions. Did Red John expect the events of the last finale to unfold the way they did? Did he expect Jane to kill Carter? I’m kind of confused about whether or not things are happening the way Red John wants them to right now, now that he’s casually leaving bodies around for Jane and the FBI to find. I’ve always been under the impression that Red John enjoys being seeked out by Jane, knowing that he’ll never catch him. I know you mentioned that Red John may have sent Carter as his messenger but I personally
    don’t think Red John is ready to quit at all. I think he was just messing with Jane, and spicing things up for his own amusement.

    Looking forward to next week’s review!

  • Julie

    Thanks for the review brainyreviewer and everyone else for the wonderful comments and ideas. I am not being successful in trying to find a reason as to why Wainwright did not tell Lisbon about transferring the files. It is a closed case as far as everyone else is concerned, he could possibly be concerned for the team about how they would react to the case being looked in to, especially given the consequences around the killing of RedJohn. Perhaps he didn’t want to stir things up to soon, we don’t know how much Darcy told him of her suspicions. That is all I could come up with and I haven’t convinced myself.

    It would, of course, only be a guess as to who called the FBI in but I would like to think that it was Jane. I think he has a lot of respect for Darcy, he doesn’t treat her with disdain and I think that he realises that she will get to the truth but he keeps putting off the day of reckoning,

    It is an interesting move by RedJohn and I am not sure what game he is playing with Jane, It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Much thought is needed.

    As for the episode itself I was a little disappointed as I thought it could have been funnier. There were some characters in the show that Jane could have had a lot more fun with. I enjoyed the trick at the end and Lisbon’s tease. Surprised Jane didn’t have the woman pegged when he first saw her.

    I liked Grace’s reaction to the news of fatherhood – her immediate and her final reaction. She handled it beautifully.

  • Anne

    First of all I love your review. It´s very detailed and interesting. And I agree with mising the more seinsible hairstyles back of the days of Van Pelt and Lisbon. They´re supposed to be cops, not models! But at least they´re clothes are shoes are sensible (unlike, cough CSI).

    But I am not suprised Darcy doesn´t suspect Jane. He lost his wife and daughter in a horrific way. Such an event changed a man and it has changed him for eternity but it has NOT made him a murderer.
    To be Red John Jane would have to be seriously mentally ill/ evil and sickening. To have the show go down that route would first of all be a really bad and lazy plot point. They´d either have to tread down the way of mental illness which is very complex and difficult to write about with respect and justice and that would make them seem like a really crappy Criminal Minds and would undermine in an instant the build up of an amazing plot. And the evil and sickening route would be just as disgusting an imagine the consequences. It´d honestly be terrible.

    Jane is a strange character and not all is light about him but Darcyno doubt sees that this guy is no murderer. He isobsessed with RJ of course but because of what RJ did to his family, not because he´s a fan or something like that. And not Jane is vital to solving the RJ case but he is not RJ.

    And getting of my soap box 🙂

  • windsparrow

    “I enjoyed the trick at the end and Lisbon’s tease. Surprised Jane didn’t have the woman pegged when he first saw her. ”

    I’ve wondered about that myself. The only thing I can come up with is that she appeared to have no guilt whatsoever about the killing, and she did not display signs of being on the antisocial personality disorder spectrum while she was busy in front of the camera.

  • windsparrow

    “Rosalind: I love her too. As to her senses, this is a woman who sensed that Roy was a good person, who till recently refused to believe he was capable of murder. As to hearing the body being moved in, perhaps she was otherwise occupied? Like fixing tea in the kitchen or freshening up for her lover in the bathroom? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just throwing ideas out there.”

    She would have had to be doing something more involved than simply powdering her nose and having a bit of a wash for it to prevent her from hearing Roy thumping around putting a body in her closet – unless her bathroom is way up in the attic (highly unlikely). At the very least, she would have had to take a shower. Hmm. I suppose if they got intimate, then she hopped in the shower afterwards, and Roy isn’t the kind of guy to fall asleep right after, then he could have done it then. But… imagining RJ having sex is ickier than thinking about one’s parents going at it.

    The difficulty of hauling a corpse around quietly enough that Rosalind would not have heard it together with the unlikelihood of her not smelling the blood as it oozed out from the plastic wrap (and what is with that? Does RJ own stock in Glad or something?) makes it difficult for me to believe she was unaware of the skeleton (plus flesh) in her closet. Add to that her unusual demeanor when Jane, Darcy, et al., stormed her house, Rosalind is either not the innocent that she *appeared* or RJ did in fact mess with her mind in a similar (if not quite as intense) way as he did with with Kristina Frye.

    I’ve often thought there was more to Rosalind than we have seen – she’s just too innocent, too nice. Jane has mentioned checking the shoes of people in wheelchairs, so he is not silly enough to believe that handicapped people can do no wrong. But how could anyone verify that Rosalind was as innocent as she appeared? And in hindsight her manner kind of reminds me of Tim Carter’s wife.

    “Jane in a loft. Love it. Could it be he feels safer the higher up he is?”

    I keep saying he’s part Siamese Cat….

  • zee

    Hello Again,

    A few thoughts I would like to share:

    1) Why Red John Killed the Mortician

    A top of my head theory:
    Probably, the mortician might have sighted Red John (or cronies) following Jane and Rosalind at the morgue. Putting himself in the position of being found out, if investigated further from Darcy, he quickly cut him loose. I think the mortician knew something important that Red John had to kill him, since Red John kills for a purpose now to cover himself, rather than for pleasure.

    Red John wishes to retire and wants to be dead to the world, but not to Jane. Or maybe he helped Jane out to confuscate Darcy’s suspicion “Red John dead or not”. Hence, no smiley face this time.

    Which brings me to….

    2) Rosalind Harker

    The ending scene has both adrenaline and creepy tranquillty that I enjoyed very much. However, it seems to me that the behaviour of Rosalind in that scene was off. There is a pouding/stampede of FBI back-up trampling into the house, and a blind person just obliviously plays her piano recital? I feel it is not because of her sadness of Roy leaving yet again.

    I think Red John visited her to do the same thing he did to Kristina Frye. A suspended trance-like hypnotism. She even responded in an unnatural cadence. Maybe this doesn’t mean anything, she mentioned before in previous seasons’ episode (Season 1or2?) that she doesn’t play the piano anymore eversince Roy left. What does it mean that she starts playing now?

    The hynotism explains how Red John can hide the body without Rosalind noticing and prevent the FBI from investigating further, if her brain really is mushed-up by the trance, like Frye. All in all, key objective of Red John was achieved; to tie up loose ends.

    Thanks Reviewbrain, despite being sick, you still wrote a wonderful review:)

  • Everrinn

    I have to respectfully disagree with your reasoning behind it being a horrible route if Jane was Red John after all (to each their own though, I totally understand your viewpoint). I think it would be great, personally. Do I think that is the case? No. But I wouldn’t be disappointed if it were. Jane is an extremely complex character. I think there are a lot of things we don’t and are not meant to understand about him. He can very dark and he is capable of murder. Not only does Lisbon herself say so to LaRoche in season three, but we all saw him actually kill a person. He may not be a cold-blooded man, but murdering a single person does make you a murderer, and Jane did just that. Interestingly, that also plays into the fact that as Rebecca said, Red John is on a mission of enlightenment (or something like that.) It’s almost as if Red John thinks that was he is doing isn’t as horribly demented as it is. Or that’s just what he wants us to think.

    That said, I could be misunderstanding, but I don’t think anyone was saying Darcy should suspect Jane of being Red John. I think what was meant is that it’s surprising Darcy doesn’t suspect Jane of killing Panzer. As was said already, Jane already killed a serial killer (or thought he did), that part is fact. Who’s to say he isn’t taking it upon himself to rid the world of another killer? For all she knows, he could have gone total twisted vigilante.

    Totally agree on the clothes thing. Though I like Lisbon’s hair this season, it doesn’t really suit her as a cop.

  • violet

    I agree with Windsparrow about Rosalind: her eerily calm demeanor while playing the piano, her toneless sad voice made me think as well that she was under some kind of suggestion, beyond the power he usually holds upon her.
    Although her inalterable trust and admiration for “Roy” has always been disturbing, I’m not sure if she’s consciously his accomplice, mostly because Jane likes her and he’s usually right about people. (It could be argued that he didn’t see through O’Laughlin, but he wasn’t close to the guy, he knew him mostly through Grace.)

    (Your comments are great Windsparrow! You rock!! 🙂 )

  • rhostog

    Thank you for another excellent review – hope you’re feeling better. I’m really enjoying the drawings and thought-provoking comments!

    Like zee, I was also struck by Rosalind’s odd behaviour (and reminded of Kristina) – firstly Rosalind’s rapturous delight when speaking on the phone while Roy was with her, and then at the end, her trance-like state as she played the piano. Also reminded me of that guy who strapped a bomb to Lisbon in an earlier episode – Jane asked on the phone if he was religious, and he said something like yes, deeply, but not in a way you would recognise. Then again, there was Rebecca’s blissful smile just before she died. RJ’s friends and followers do seem to have been brainwashed into this ‘religious’ devotion.

    I’m afraid I really can’t find much sympathy for Wainright – he’s not shown much leadership at all; when he arrived he made that rather pathetic attempt to assert his authority by calling Jane a psychopath based on some very dodgy amateur psychoanalysis, he gushed like a kid over that footballer in Red Shirt – and he’s not really contributed much to the unit. His behaviour over the RJ files could be suspicious in various ways, but maybe he’s just an overgrown petulant nerdy teenager. ‘You leave me out of things – well I’ve got new friends at the FBI to have secrets with, so nuh to you’. Perhaps he was psychologically damaged as a young child in kindergarten by having to write his name on his classwork – all the other kids with short, easy-to-spell names had gone out to play, and he’s still sitting there spelling out: -i-n-r-i-g-… 🙂

    Following up on your comments about Jane teaching Lisbon his mentalist techniques perhaps: I thought it was interesting that it was Lisbon who noticed the body language of the guilty model, not Jane.

  • Julie

    I’m not sure if she’s consciously his accomplice, mostly because Jane likes her and he’s usually right about people. (It could be argued that he didn’t see through O’Laughlin, but he wasn’t close to the guy, he knew him mostly through Grace.)

    Except for the first time that O’laughlin joined the series when Jane asked him about who the inside man was at Visualize I can’t remember another time when they were even in the same room together.

  • ortforshort

    I think RJ is just toying with Jane by letting Darcy live. He knows Jane is doing everything he can to keep Darcy alive, despite Darcy. RJ is just having fun (his kind of fun) with it. He could kill Darcy any time, but where’s the sport?

  • everrinn

    That’s very true. Do you feel the same way about Lisbon? I’m kind of going back and forth on why Red John doesn’t seem to care about Lisbon’s existence. Maybe he just doesn’t see that targeting her would be as much fun as targeting Kristina or Darcy. Or is he waiting for them to become closer so he can wreak ultimate havoc on the poor guy’s emotional state by removing yet another person he truly cares about? Or maybe he just doesn’t care either way 😛

  • windsparrow

    everrinn, I was just getting into this issue “Do you feel the same way about Lisbon? I’m kind of going back and forth on why Red John doesn’t seem to care about Lisbon’s existence.” on Twitter. Having whole paragraphs to expound on it is going to be good. I think RJ has not targeted Lisbon yet for one of three reasons.

    First, he could realize that Lisbon is vital to Jane’s access to his case. Sure if Lisbon disappears from the CBI, Jane could still be there for a while – until he ticks Bertram off badly enough. But Jane has demonstrated rather conclusively that he won’t work with anyone else there. Now his external attitude might change if Lisbon were killed, but he still would end up irritating the heck out of Bertram and getting fired.

    The second possibility is that RJ is waiting for Jane and Lisbon to get even closer so that it will hurt Jane that much more when she dies or gets irreparably damaged.

    The third possibility is that RJ was just messing with him when he had Stiles give Jane the warning about RJ destroying everyone that Jane cares about, while planning not to damage Lisbon (unless she really gets in his way). Vicious form of psychological torment, I think. Jane can’t help getting closer and closer to Lisbon, but is terrified for her safety, so holds back from getting as close as he wishes he could. Yet if Jane only knew that RJ was planning to keep hands off Lisbon, he could take all the comfort he would want with her. It would become such a cruel recursion loop. And this is how I would write it.

  • windsparrow

    “Perhaps he was psychologically damaged as a young child in kindergarten by having to write his name on his classwork – all the other kids with short, easy-to-spell names had gone out to play, and he’s still sitting there spelling out: -i-n-r-i-g-…”

    Ok, that’s it. Three of us have now complained about his name. I vote we just call him Hobart. It’s much easier to type.

  • Everrinn

    That third possibility is kind of intriguing. I hadn’t thought of that at all. Although I do think he will end up targeting Lisbon eventually. I find it interesting that he hasn’t made any kind of threat toward her, the way he did with Darcy. I feel like with the third option, Red John would be more openly threatening with the possibility of causing harm to Lisbon. That would cause greater psychological damage to Jane if Jane was constantly expecting that something bad was going to happen to Lisbon, while Red John never followed through on it. That would be very interesting.

    Instead, Red John seems to be acting like he isn’t at all aware of Lisbon and her closeness with Jane. He’s allowing Jane to become more comfortable with the idea of getting closer to Lisbon, and sharing with her information he doesn’t share with anybody else. The more Jane confides in her, the more he sees that nothing is happening to her. His heightened ability to trust in her may end up backfiring on him if Red John is just waiting for the right moment.

  • violet

    Everrinn has a point : who is really aware of Lisbon and Jane’s recent closeness? The team, principally. Before that, it has been hinted by various people (Bosco), but it was more a way to explain Lisbon’s lenience towards Jane than to show that Jane was caring deeply about her. Same with kidnapper Rachel: she wanted to inflict pain in the same way she suffered, so she targeted the closest she could get, someone he worked with in a daily basis, his partner, for lack of a more appropriate person. If his relationship with Kristina were to work out (in more ways than one!), she would have been it. If so, that only proves how much of a loner Jane is…
    Now, if we have a look at the moles infiltrated directly in the CBI, we see that they were both some external elements. Rebecca worked with Bosco, she spoke with Lisbon as a coworker, but she hadn’t close contact with the team. For O’Laughlin, he was closer, but he was never alone with Lisbon and Jane and that’s when they are the most in sync. Guess he didn’t witness first hand how close they are and that Grace never commented on it. Pure conjecture, of course, but since their most intimate moments are private, when they are alone (even for the topic of Panzer/ Darcy), it may be possible that RJ is not conscious of the extent of their friendship. He could have dismissed Jane’s willingness to get Lisbon back in the CBI because it was easier for him to work with her: she lets him do as he wants, basically, even for the Red John cases.

    We also know that RJ kills when it is useful: Bosco’s team and Kristina were seen as a threat. The latter dared confront him on television and Bosco was making progress in the investigation (they had discovered something new). Maybe RJ is waiting for Lisbon to be more threatening for him, since for now she’s been more a kind of reluctant sidekick for Jane about this particular case…

    Either way, the idea of RJ torturing Jane psychologically by not targeting Lisbon is really interesting! Thus I find it very intriguing that Jane doesn’t refer anymore to “being a danger to others” and to “being better off alone”. Since he’s being more and more affectionate towards Lisbon, he should also realize that he’s endangering her, shouldn’t he? Or is he so convinced that RJ wants to retire after getting his last fun with him that he thinks Lisbon is safe now? Does he believe his nemesis has already allowed him to build a new life (via Carter)?

  • ortforshort

    Lisbon has never really gone after RJ the way Jane, Panzer, Kristina Frye and Darcy have. It appears that RJ reacts very decisively when someone makes a direct challenge to him (presuming it’s a him – the only glimpse we’ve ever had of RJ was when he saved Jane – and who knows if that was actually RJ or another one of his minions?). Lisbon has never issued that type of a challenge to RJ.

  • Everrinn

    Very true, ortforshort. I think the main reason I wonder about him targeting her isn’t that he sees her as a challenge, but more that he seems too bent on ruining Jane psychologically to not want to target somebody else he is close to. Although now that you bring up that Kristina presented a challenge to him, it could very well be that he went after her not because she was close to Jane, but simply because she called out to him on television. Then again, I think Kristina is an RJ minion anyway, but that’s a whole different story ;P I do think it is possible he is just waiting for the right time to target her Lisbon, when Jane is closer to her and doesn’t see it coming.

    Also, don’t forget we did just see Roy also, who definitely seemed to be a man- assuming Roy and RJ really are the same person.

  • ortforshort

    It’s probably a reach thinking RJ might be a woman. Roy is either RJ or another one of RJ’s minions. Agreed that Lisbon is always a potential RJ target and that RJ is just keeping the option of targeting her in his pocket until he wants to move in that direction. Just the threat of going after Lisbon would be enough to stop Jane in his tracks if there was a need to do that. I wonder if the writers of the show ever read the blogs to get ideas or just to see how viewers are perceiving their plots. For example, I wish the writers of Lost would have read those blogs because there were so many ideas in them that were so much better than the drivel they ended up with. What like about The Mentalist is the writing is excellent and gives us so many rich possibilities to speculate on.

  • ortforshort

    Interesting thought Kristina Frye being RJ’s minion. It would explain a lot of the stuff that happened with her. It wouldn’t explain why she and RJ would have gone to all of that trouble – to what end? And, where is she now?

  • windsparrow

    Julie said, “I’m not sure if she’s consciously his accomplice, mostly because Jane likes her and he’s usually right about people.”

    How soon did Jane pick up on Sally Carter being a willful accomplice of her psychopathic husband, rather than an innocent widow? He did seem sincere when he offered to spend the rest of his life trying to make up for killing her husband if he was the good man she claimed.

    If Rosalind thinks Roy is a good man because she is the sort of person who thinks Red John is worthy of devotion, could she be enough of a psychopath herself to project absolutely no guilt, or shame, or whatever tells Jane might pick up on – or mentally ill (or otherwise completely deluded about right and wrong) such that she is so convinced she is in the right that her self-perceived righteousness would provide a smoke screen to block Jane from really getting in her head?

  • violet

    That’s difficult to say. Jane may have been suspecting Carter’s wife since the very beginning, simply because she accepted to talk with him and without any of her friends at that; even though Lisbon was here, would she really feel safe enough knowing the delusional man who shot her husband out of the blue was in the house with her and only a friend of his? Or he could have come to that conclusion beforehand, by deduction: if he was close enough to RJ, Carter would have had a knack for bending people to his will rather than lying continuously to his relatives, it was worth a shot to investigate the wife. Or her insistence that she knew everything about Carter might have come as a veiled confession in Jane’s perceptive ears… too many possibilities!

    About Rosalind now. There are two kind of people in RJ’s little army: people who were already psychopaths and would have killed one way or another (Hardy, Johnson) and people who were convinced to join the “greater cause”, Rebecca, Guntar (saying that he’s not a bad person, that he wouldn’t kill Jane and Lisbon if they give him what he wanted, affirming that he’s a deeply religious person), and, supposedly O’Laughlin. Rebecca is particularly interesting; she was so charmed by RJ that her sense of right and wrong was corrupted: killing Bosco’s team was necessary, since it was for RJ who is about to enlighten the world (cf. in Grace’s hallucination/vision, Craig also said there are hard decisions to make). I personally think Rosalind belongs to the same category as Rebecca: a weak soul that RJ can alter at his will. Rosalind just hadn’t been fully manipulated then: RJ used her as a lover, not an accomplice until then, she was already blind and very lonely, there was no need to change anything. And I’d like to point out that Jane didn’t suspect anyone of this second kind: not Guntar, not Craig nor Rebecca when she worked in the building. He sensed that Hardy and Jonhson were off but he had to make deductions to reveal the others (for example Guntar in the car). That must mean something, mustn’t it? The argument that Rosalind was innocent since Jane didn’t see anything bad in her is arguable then, even though I still think she was innocent…

    (that was rushed and confused! Sorry, I’m in a hurry!)

  • Julie

    I think the difference between Rebecca, Gupter and O’Houghlin and Rosalind is that Jane didn’t know of their connection to RedJohn whereas he does with Rosalind, So I think he would already be on his guard with her, maybe he is also using her to keep that connection with RedJohn, for purposes such as last week.

  • Judy

    What about Red John in a suit having tea with Rosalind from a delicate teacup much like Jane does? It seems to be an ironic parallel that RJ Looks so dapper. Where is he from? CBI?

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